My Crappy Pancreas

December 15, 2011

Clunk!

Filed under: ablation,abraxane,ercp,SIR spheres,stent — marisaandscott @ 7:22 pm

Marisa says: Living with this disease, it seems like you are always waiting for the other shoe to drop, waiting for when the wheels will fall off the wagon, or whatever other saying you want to insert here. Always waiting. You go along status quo until…something changes…bathroom habits, pain level, swelling in the legs…and all of a sudden, it’s like you are stuck, unable to focus, let alone move forward, until you know what horrible thing must be going on inside you. Your head just knows that this is it. The beginning of the end. The downward spiral. The end of the road. It’s hard. It sucks. It’s the nature of PC.

Upon our return from the cruise, we were sent directly to the ER in Charlotte so they could do another ultrasound to check for a blood clot. Fortunately, all was still clear. Unfortunately, the worry had already begun, back on the ship. Was Scott’s stomach bigger? Was there more fluid in his abdomen? Was that why there was swelling?

The Monday after Thanksgiving brought blood work, to see what the liver was doing prior to Tuesday’s already-scheduled treatment. Tuesday, we met with the doc who was concerned about the abdomen and how lousy Scott stated he was feeling, so he scheduled a scan to see what was going on in there. The initial review was that things appeared stable, no additional ascites was present, and Monday’s liver enzymes were good, so we went ahead with the scheduled chemo, Abraxane.

And then the radiologist’s report came in…

Clunk!

Progression in the liver.

Honestly, even our oncologist didn’t believe it initially. He sat down to review the scan with the radiologist in person, to look at the scans and understand why the report was so different than the initial thought. (The radiologists have super big, high definition monitors, you know.) And upon review, yes, there appeared to be progression in the liver. Some of the tumors in there had grown. But then, you have to compare the scan to the one before it, and the two scans were not done exactly the same way, so it makes it tricky to compare. Aargh! If you are comparing things, you want to be able to compare apples to apples, not apples to kumquats. Also, large chunks of Scott’s liver had been fried in the ablation, so maybe it was all ablation defects, not progression. And if the abraxane really wasn’t working, well crap, for the first time, we didn’t have another plan queued up to proceed to and we had to figure out what was next.

The onco decided to do a PET scan, so we could really tell what was going on in there – Scott’s first one. There was a good bit of anxiety about it (“what if I light up like a Christmas tree?”), but we needed the info to figure things out.

[A word on PET scans - Instead of the normal CT scans which have shown where things are to date, becuase they show structures and you can tell what is there (and what is not supposed to be there), a PET scan works differently. How it was explained to me is this - PET scans show degrees of brightness based on a radioactive sugar isotope that you are given to drink. The tumors take up the sugar rapidly, greedy bastards that they are, and so, when reviewing the scan, they show up brightly. When overlayed with a concurrent CT scan, you can tell what is shining brightly where - and where your trouble spots are.]

As you can imagine, in the midst of all of this, our heads are spinning, trying to understand what this all means and with a distinctly different feeling than we have had before, given the lack of a plan. We reached out to the docs at Columbia and Hopkins to try to get their thoughts. (actually on our way to Hopkins right now).

This past Tuesday (two days ago), we sat down to talk to our onco about the PET scan, after having gotten the preview call on Saturday (didn’t I tell you we have the best oncologist in the world??).

The good news, no…great news, is that Scott did not light up like a Christmas tree. The lymph nodes in the chest and the nodule in the lung that had been identified before are quiet, and there was only one spot in the pancreas that lit up. (wait, didn’t we fry that already?)

The more challenging news? Scott’s liver did look like the bush outside our house…lots of twinkling there.

At this point, having exhausted the generally available options (and some not generally available options), we find ourselves definitively at the end of the paved road. We’ve got to make our own way from here and the path isn’t clear, so we’re going to have to figure out where to go. We have to continue with some type of systemic treatment, to treat what is a systemic disease, but we also need to find a way to deal with the mets in the liver, because…no liver, no Scott. So, the team is mobilizing, the docs are conferring and we’re going to figure out what is next. And quickly, too.

The options before us are as follows:

1. Clinical trial or other experimental treatment – Don’t know what yet, but working through the options. The options are narrowed because of Scott’s previous treatments, so we may just be looking at Phase 1 options. More to come…

2. Liver-directed therapy – With the cancer largely confined to the liver at this point, liver-directed therapy may be a viable option once again. There are several options, and we will work through which ones, if any, Scott is a good candidate for, and what risks may be palatable. Looking at evaluating SIR spheres first (radiation from the inside) and following up with liver-specific chemo – a chemo-embolization, without too much embolization. Again, this is way early, but these are some of the thoughts floating around.

Where will we end up? I have no idea – hopefully some combination of the two, that continues to treat him systemically, even on an experimental basis, while addressing the liver issues. I have to say, though, I am thankful to have the molecular profiling done in Arizona from the tissue samples taken during the ablation to try to guide the choices that are made now. It helps tremendously that we know more about what we are dealing with.

And that’s where things stand right now, today, this moment. We’ve got our meeting with the Hopkins doc tomorrow and then back to Charlotte to try to piece it all together. A pre-Christmas stent replacement is scheduled for Tuesday, so we don’t have to throw that madness into the mix.

Scott continues his effort to blaze trails for pancreatic cancer patients, especially the young ones. And we keep trying to figure out what piece(s) of the puzzle may work. Me, I’m just along for the ride, trying to hold it all together.

And you all, I hope you keep praying BIG!

19 Comments »

  1. Marisa, I will say some extra prayers for you, Scott and the boys as you continue on this unknown journey. May God bless you with peace and comfort. Hugs from St. Louis. -Cara

    Comment by Cara — December 15, 2011 @ 7:33 pm | Reply

  2. I have been fighting PC since April ’10. I have 4 PET scans, sterotactic radiation. I started out with Gemzar chemo which helped but became ineffective after a year. We started out with treatment at the Moffitt Center in Tampa. After our return to Asheville the oncologist switched my treatment to Folfirinox. It is more than a little tough on a 70 year old. My treatment cycle had to be increased from 2 to 3 weeks due to white blood cell and platelet counts. The good news by CA 19-9 has dropped from over 550 to 77. (I started out at Moffitt at close to 2000) I’d be most interested in hearing more about Abraxane. I will say move from the huge Moffitt facility to Cancer Centers of North Carolina has been very positive. I get much more personal treatment. Right now I’m waiting for the results of this week’s CA 19-9 test. I’m hoping an praying it continues the downward trend.

    I have been following your blog for several months and feel you angst and pain. It appears you have been making some progress. Good Luck.

    Comment by rick deary — December 15, 2011 @ 7:45 pm | Reply

  3. My head spins with Scott’s details and how you are all moving forward. You are learning words, and treatments you never imagined to be fluent with. Yet you are strong, positive and thriving with Scott’s success – and he is a success! My thoughts and prayers continue to be with you and all the medical staff who are part of his treatment and progress. Blessings.

    Comment by Barbara Lore — December 15, 2011 @ 8:41 pm | Reply

  4. Dear Marisa and Scott

    Thank you so much for the extensive report. It is better to know where you are with treatments than to imagine things and worry. Your writing is clear and honest and it helps your readers understand all that you two endure. I continually pray for you and your family. I hope you are able to find some time this holiday season to enjoy peace, quiet and love.

    Still out here with you at heart.

    Comment by Gwenda Ward — December 15, 2011 @ 11:24 pm | Reply

  5. We’re praying Big for your family over here! Much love,

    Comment by Karen Zatz — December 16, 2011 @ 12:39 am | Reply

  6. Clear and eloquent as always- your sharing is a gift. Boy, I hate the Clunk!! Here’s to one day at a time, with laughter and love, and to finding that next thing. You both amaze me again and again with your strength, humor, and clarity.
    With deep love and respect, and good thoughts always,
    Alicia

    Comment by Alicia Zambelli — December 16, 2011 @ 1:24 am | Reply

  7. I have been praying BIG for Scott, for you & your family for months & will continue to do so. You are facing this challenge head on with determination, strength, love & support. My wonderful husband fought bravely with grace & dignity against this horrific disease for 2+ years with such a will to survive. He tried everything we & his wonderful team of experts could put together at each new twist & turn. Very sadly the Lord called him home just 2 weeks ago on November 29, 2011. So trust I am praying really, really BIG for all of you. Stay on top of everything as you do and God Bless all of you!
    Much love, respect, admiration and positive vibes, Josephine

    Comment by Josephine Neveu — December 16, 2011 @ 2:12 am | Reply

  8. Dear Marisa and Scott,
    My big sister talked fondly of your blog as one of the few pancreas cancer blogs written eloquently and by young people around her age battling this atrocious illness. As you might recall, she had battled it since her initial stage 4 diagnosis in June 2010. On October 29, chemotherapy was stopped and she began hospice care at my parents’ home shortly after. Dec. 14, 2011, my wonderful big sister left for the next big adventure, surrounfed

    Comment by Nicole Rancatore — December 16, 2011 @ 4:39 am | Reply

    • surrounded by family. My heart and thoughts go out to you during this time.

      Comment by Nicole Rancatore — December 16, 2011 @ 4:42 am | Reply

      • I am writing this via her smartphone and i realize in my idiocy I forgot to mention her name is Erin Buell.

        Comment by Nicole Rancatore — December 16, 2011 @ 4:44 am

    • so sorry to hear about Erin. I use to work with her and just found out she was sick. She was a truly great person and will be missed.

      Comment by john — December 17, 2011 @ 2:31 am | Reply

  9. Dear Marissa & Scott,

    I understand…my husband, Michael, is still fighting pancreatic cancer 17 months in now…although he too has liver progression in the last CT scan. It is still so surreal. We fight, we try, we wait!! Acceptance of what is in the moment is not giving up, but strength from within. Like you, every day we get up and we are grateful for the moment. Life happens in the moment…in the NOW!!

    I will be thinking of you today as you meet at Hopkins today. You both inspire me and we are connected as we journey on together!!

    I have been following your blog. If you would like to follow Michael’s, he has a CaringBridge website under michaelcruse.

    “Embrace the Day”…Jane (jane.cruse@comcast.net) xoxo

    Comment by Jane Cruse — December 16, 2011 @ 8:44 am | Reply

  10. Marisa and Scott,

    That “clunk” and those “snaps” are the worse! But you guys have been such warriors in this process. I will continue to have you in my thoughts are prayers.

    Jen R.

    Comment by Jennifer Roberts — December 16, 2011 @ 8:45 am | Reply

  11. Clunk. What a way to sum it up. My co-worker’s wife is going through a clunk right now with ovarian cancer that had spread quite a bit before they found it two years ago. I’m praying big for you!

    Comment by Kim — December 16, 2011 @ 9:29 am | Reply

  12. I continue to be amazed by your perseverance and good humor through this difficult process (I love the image of the cancer cells as greedy bastards!). As usual, it sounds like you really do have a plan, even though it is still flexible at this stage, and wonderful relationships with your physicians to help guide you. Thank you, as always, for sharing with all of us, and we continue to hold you in our hearts.

    I’m looking forward to hearing Scott write about taking the kids to see The Lorax in March! His entry about realizing how far away it was was heartbreaking – but now it’s almost here. One step at a time, with a minimum of clunking. :)

    Audrey

    Comment by Audrey Ettinger — December 16, 2011 @ 10:41 am | Reply

  13. You are so brave, and I admire you both so much for continuing this fight for Scott and for other PC patients. I understand perfectly about the “clunk.” It’s been 4 months today since Tom died, only 7 months after his diagnosis. My heart goes out to all who have lost someone to PC and to those of you who are struggling. God be with you.

    Minda

    Comment by Minda Heidenreich — December 16, 2011 @ 11:51 am | Reply

  14. Thinking and rating for all of you today.

    Comment by Amy — December 19, 2011 @ 8:32 am | Reply

  15. Thanks again for keeping us informed. Peace and Hope to you and yours this holiday season. Just got back from spending three days with Lance, Kristi, and the boys. Got to see some great pictures of your stay with them last summer. Take Care, will pray big
    From Iowa
    Dianne & Larry

    Comment by Dianne — December 19, 2011 @ 3:36 pm | Reply

  16. Marissa and Scott,

    I stumbled across your blog last night while Googling Flofirinox and SIR. My name is Paige and my husband Steve was diagnosed with PC on September 6th, 2011. He has a 3cm tuor at the head of his pancreas and he too has liver mets. I started to cry when I read your post regarding fatigue…..Steve just started his 7th treatment with Flofirinox. He has not rebounded the last 2 sessions and is having a hard time. I appreciate you sharing your struggles. He had almost said exactly the same thing you had, I couldn’t believe it. This is the new normal. Thanks you for sharing! We just had a consultation with the Radiology Oncologist and they want to see how Steve responds to the Chemo treatment before moving ahead with the SIR procedure. We too ended up with a great Oncologist, we are so greatful, he is also pushing the envelope. Steve is healthy too, he had been playing Hockey (goalie) 2 weeks before his diagnosis. Unbeleivable!!!!

    Just a few thing I wanted to share, you may know of them already. I attended the PanCan Conference in Minneapolis in October, they host conferences several times a year all over the country. The conference is full of great and helpful information, speakers, break out sessions etc. ther web site is http://www.pancan.org. They also have a support group system set up in many city’s. I went to a few meetings, the people were wonderful most had been able to have the Whipple. The conference had a speaker from the University of Minnesota, Masonic Cancer Center a Dr. Vickers. He had a promising Clinical starting in April/May Phase 1. I know that Scott has limitations with the treatment he has recieved already, but this could be and option for him. I do not think it is posted yet, I have not been unable to find it to date.

    Wishing you a Wonderful Holiday Season!

    Your in our thoughts……

    P.S.

    We have a son Cole too, he is 17. We also have a daughter Margaret 15 and another son Conner 13, I will say it first 3 teenagers “yikes”!

    Comment by Paige Lee — December 21, 2011 @ 10:19 pm | Reply


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